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Aaaaaaa I want imposition
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Don't we all.
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I wish more people were working on it and sharing ideas/progress
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have a good night :)
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I don't, but good night and good luck, nerd.
12:47 AM
:B
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We made life size drawings which seems helpful
12:48 AM
Seems like a lot of materials and work.
12:48 AM
And y'know I've got great visualization so...
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Not really, it helps that I can draw us accurately (to my eye), just gotta do it BIG
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Is it at least fun?
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Eh? I dunno, the pictures are done enough now. Just get to look over and see how the tups would look if they were standing there which is nice
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Not fun, wouldn't have done it.
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Well I like drawing
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But you said it wasn't fun!
12:51 AM
Gosh. Make a decision.
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Was confused because it's not an ongoing process, it's already done. Is it fun to have them up to look at? Well I like it, but fun is an odd word for it
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Fun overall, too! There is such a thing as the thrill of success. And it can outweigh pain.
12:52 AM
I mean if you like drawing it's not a big deal, it's not a draw on resources.
12:53 AM
But I would not do this because I generally don't.
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Zen
cough Suggestive doesn't mean what you think it means Ranger. cough
A long kiss goodnight 3/1/2022 12:53 AM
I'm not sure how else to describe it. What's another way to say you can easily pick up new beliefs without much doubt or thought initially?
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suggestible
12:53 AM
Suggestive means you're lewd, like me.
12:54 AM
As in, you make suggestions
12:54 AM
with the italics.
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I draw 'em a lot on regular size paper for fun and reference, but I guess drawing life-size is a bit more like a project, it can feel a tad work-like but also engaging to get the proportions and details right
12:55 AM
But really, we need to find a way to make imposition practice fun because I keep avoiding it
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I wrote for several months in Rhys' creation, straight. Let me never tell you what is too much. Instead, let your heart decide or something equally trite but ultimately true.
12:56 AM
I will say this though:
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At no point was it a chore.
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It was quite vigorous really.
12:57 AM
Looked forward to it every day.
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We need something like that
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It's not the kind of passion that can be forced, it happens when it happens.
12:57 AM
I've let myself get uppity about it in the past and it sucks
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A long kiss goodnight
I'm not sure how else to describe it. What's another way to say you can easily pick up new beliefs without much doubt or thought initially?
Candlelight Society 🕯 3/1/2022 12:59 AM
This is the dictionary definition of suggestive "making someone think of sex and sexual relationships."
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 3/1/2022 12:59 AM
I think sitting down and playing with the Ganzfeld effect is fun, but I'm not super crazed for it either. Character creation is a lot more interesting for me, but I want to put more effort into broad character building rather than the tiniest of details. My art and character skills are not there yet
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Yuka
After 8 years, you've probably seen this but just in case https://tulpanomicon.guide/mal-imposition.html
Whenever I see this, I wonder how Malfael's system's doing. There was one dude I'd chat with. He was cool. 😔
12:57 PM
Hope he survived whatever the fuck was going on within the system.
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I don't know much but I think Mal herself is gone or merged away
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A long kiss goodnight 3/1/2022 4:22 PM
I don't know that system, I don't believe I ever met them
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Ranger doesn't get out much then...
4:52 PM
I'm pretty sure they were on this server at some point tho
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A long kiss goodnight 3/1/2022 4:58 PM
Malfael is part of Within's/Cadey's system? (edited)
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A long kiss goodnight 3/1/2022 5:01 PM
Oh, are they part of Harleen's system? If so I never met them before
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I don't know Harleen actually
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A long kiss goodnight 3/1/2022 5:05 PM
Oh, looking at the chat log it looks like they were talking to Beckett's system They were active here around June of 2018, I didn't join the Discord server until later. Actually, I did join when they were around, but they were pretty rare and I wasn't too invested in Discord until after they more or less disappeared. (edited)
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Account name is Kaliya. I know they used to contribute a lot in the old days, but by the time I was around they were only online to socialize I guess
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Deleted User 3/2/2022 6:18 AM
So I was thinking, one way I could help further develop my tulpa as an idea she came up with is just interviewing each other. Anyone tried this? I need some food questions.
6:19 AM
My progress has been in a rut lately. Been so busy with life, tulpa is either sleeping or doing her own thing a lot of the time
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Yeah that’s a way to do forcing
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Yuka
I don't know much but I think Mal herself is gone or merged away
I kept missing them. I saw someone within the system Tulpa Chat when reading back. I was a year too late. 😔
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A long kiss goodnight 3/2/2022 3:20 PM
Thinking about credible scientific research on tulpamancy, I realized it would help to have a list of what sources are and aren't credible, especially considering Fordaplot claimed to forge their data and not everyone knows that I figure the thread I posted on the forums and looking through Zone's post of links is a good place to start - https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431591425872887828/732355104480690316 (edited)
3:21 PM
I'm not sure of what Zone posted, what's good and what's bogus
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Do you guys treat everybody's experience as post you read and forget, or do you take time to log it amd maybe ask them questions about it. I would understand some tulpamancers would have good memories, but keeping good consistent information as a pattern in tulpamancy. I know I shared my experience on the tulpa forums and on this discord, but people thought I was a troll, so I probably won't share my experience.
9:45 PM
Like the monks who originated it- keeping scroll or paper on one's journey.
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A curious question. If you're asking if I archive people other than in my memory then no.
9:45 PM
But I enjoy extracting people's perspectives and seeing what they have to contribute to the field.
9:48 PM
I suspect the only chance you have of being perceived as a troll here is if you ask trite questions, not if you ask interesting ones. With that opening though, you have my attention at least. Feel confident in sharing your experience, I would be curious to hear it.
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Check their post history if you want an idea of what's up
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It's alot. I kinda abandoned telling my story. I summoned Ruby from RWBY and Susie from Deltarune.
9:53 PM
I see their colors whenever I close my eyes. Everything else is crazy.
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I observe that you speak in the past tense about them.
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They aren't here anymore- I just lurk to learn more about my experience.
9:56 PM
My posts were inconsistent because of the stress. Suddenly being plunged with voices in your head and they're not making sense. It's been two years since then.
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At a glance in aforementioned history I can see people basically saying they seemed to observe disordered behaviour with your tupperinos. Did you decide to let your tuppers go because they were wrapped up in negative behaviours? There is much here to parse.
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Yeah. I think two years ago I gave them too much to understand- and they were conditioned to observe the real world, where my presence is. I assumed, like someone else, they left two years ago and kept responding.
10:01 PM
I can still feel their presence with my bed depressing beside me. I think they learned to do that by feeling my cat sleep beside me.
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Is it something that you regret, setting them aside? After I dissipated my own tulpa I stepped aside, my life was good, but some part of me it seems did not let go of the notion. Bringing them back wasn't the greatest idea, mind you, as it seemed to cause different bad behaviour. But ultimately something was missing for me and that desire couldn't shifted without replacing it with something of greater or equal strength.
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Yeah, I felt that need to experience the fiction in my reality. I decided that I would just let go of them and understand the mystery Ruby and Susie left.
10:06 PM
Wanted to feel fiction and reality and I got it. I don't really want to be in the state where my tulpas were fully capable of impositioning.
10:10 PM
So yeah, I regretted it. I can still hear a voice but it is not the Ruby and Susie I summoned.
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You seem to be seeking answers more than just immersing in a field. I'm curious if there is something you think you want to know, at least consciously?
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There's alot of puzzles to the thoughtforms that lingered. I come on here occasionally to read someone's answer to find an answer to it.
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From others? Heh. Good luck with getting some kind of truth out of humans.
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Well that doesn't seem to be a good outlook- unless it is a joke. I told my tulpas on one occasion to lie to me. It's not a good 3xperience, but I think it was my doubt to how they truly existed.
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To be clear, it is not about lies. It is about people telling you, vigorously, what they believe to be the truth.
10:17 PM
People don't know much, you might be able to glean something in the long term scientifically from them, but not in the short term and not from individual anecdote.
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Yes, I see what you mean now. What I saw was my truth, but other people can't share it.
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The same is no doubt true in the inverse. It seems you've got some stuff going on, maybe you're atypical neurologically or something like that. Much of what you describe is probably lost on the average brain.
10:18 PM
But if someone was to try to glean a truth from you, it might actually be harmful.
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I learned some time ago it is not wise to post things on a public forum. The Tibetan monks did the same practice hundreds of years ago, and practiced the Sumatra and tantras so their tulpas wouldn't do anything rash.
10:20 PM
Really, in Tibet it is another branch from numerous teachings to find buddahood.
10:21 PM
The great self that people might look in fiction or in trips to find out.
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I believe you may mean tutelary deities or yidam there? Tulpas are actually something completely different in buddhism from what is described in theosophy and the west.
10:22 PM
One cannot even have a tulpa without being a buddha, in buddhism. They are a psychic emanation.
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Yeah, I haven't read a whole lot of it because I was in the middle of letting them go. No journal entries, no talking to them, nothing.
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But yes, the idea with Yidam isn't all that close to western tulpamancy. The idea is to achieve oneness with a deity, an expression of nature, recognize that you are ultimately it, and then let go of both of you.
10:24 PM
It is amusing to think they likely experienced blendiness with these deities and got giddy.
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Cool. Maybe I'll research what Yidam is sometime.
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While 'mancers get uppity.
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Thanks for asking though. Its freeing to get this out.
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You are very welcome. I am pleased to have assisted in whatever way I could. Always feel free to lay ideas and questions on us.
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Nature's Wrath BOT 3/2/2022 11:25 PM
I find Tibetan Buddhism fascinating, then again I find all mysticism fascinating
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A long kiss goodnight 3/4/2022 1:30 PM
i also think i have another method for getting a feel of a switch which i shared with apriori which i think might be very helpful for getting the feel of how your brain changes perspective
I'm curious about that if you don't mind sharing it
1:34 PM
i might write my method for switching practice on Sunday if people are interested
Sounds good
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